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Persional Protest [May. 31st, 2007|08:30 am]
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Delete this if you must Evil one, because I guess it could be community advertising or whatever.

I am formally protesting the recent lj nonesense, and have built a community complete with ultimatum and date.

protest_lj.

Thought some may be interested.
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[User Picture]From: rev_e
2007-05-31 02:34 pm (UTC)
It looks like Mea Culpas are being issued and steps are being taken according to LJ news.
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From: nezmaster
2007-05-31 03:08 pm (UTC)

not really

the apology is not satisfying to many of us. and in fact, in some ways makes things worse. The line regarding "Fiction sometimes being thinly veiled advocacy" pretty much says very clearly that LJ fully plans on being content police, making judgement calls as to what is advocacy, what is allowed, and what isn't, which they have never done in the past.
That, and some other issues that have come up since the so-called apology are what I am addressing.

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[User Picture]From: rev_e
2007-05-31 03:45 pm (UTC)

Re: not really

LJ fully plans on being content police, making judgement calls as to what is advocacy, what is allowed, and what isn't, which they have never done in the past.

Well, they have to be content police. And you agreed for them to be content police in the terms of service. They sure as hell over-reacted but they're taking steps to fix it.

They always said they could delete on the basis of content, and that they get to decide what content gets the axe.

This is what I posted on my LJ before I got all the facts in the matter about how badly LJ handled this, but the meat of the matter still holds true:

(check the TOS kiddies; we all agreed that LJ could delete any account for any reason. You can stand on a soapbox and say anything you want but if it's someone else's soapbox then they can take it from you if they don't like what you say. We are currently on a commercial website and that means if there's anything out there that could cost them money or just less than stellar publicity then they will take action as they see fit; and we agreed to play by their rules no matter how limiting they may be. Didn't read the TOS before you signed up? Who's fault is that? Get your own server for your Draco/Harry slash if you don't want to deal with this crap, there's plenty of open source blogging software out there. If I were any less lazy I'd go that route with Check This Shit on principle alone. To paraphrase a recent post, It must be what we want because we signed up for it. /lowyieldrant.)
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[User Picture]From: rev_e
2007-05-31 05:16 pm (UTC)

Re: not really

Oh, and "so-called apology"? That thing was dripping with contrition. It was kind of embarrassing to read to tell the truth.

Well we really screwed this one up…

I can only say I’m sorry, explain what we did wrong and what we are doing to correct these problems and explain what we were trying to do but messed up so completely.

What we did wrong;

We never intended the policies to take down journals or communities clearly opposed to illegal activities but clearly we did. We love our members of fandom and respect their role in our community. We made a mistake and now we are going to try to fix it.

We tried to implement a policy that walk that line and we did it poorly, we are all sorry.

It seems that people are very upset that I did a phone call with cNet before posting here. Probably a mistake but I did make it clear to them that we were still looking in to this and that I would have a better answer by the end of the day. Sorry but it really took some time to figure out how messed up this was.


I believe the problem here was not the complaints or the policies but our very poor execution.

Why did it take so long?
Well when you mess up some times you really mess up and it takes a while to even sort it out,

I will need to beg his forgiveness too for doing such a bad job of filling in his absence.
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